[ElenoreFanGirl] go
[MartAnimE] Go~!
[forlornhope] go
[BeyondTime] go
[Noirlax] GO~!
[ShadowBlazer3000] go
[ShadowBlazer3000] .hack Conglomerate
[ShadowBlazer3000] they went from a project to a Conglomerate
[ShadowBlazer3000] far out
[ElenoreFanGirl] that was fast
[MartAnimE] aww Phyllo
[forlornhope] :cat:
[MartAnimE] stupid Sakisaka still kicking the creature
[MartAnimE] joined just cuz you're invited sounds like a pretty good reason to me
[MartAnimE] it's a game, you don't need a reward, playing the game is the reward :V
[Noirlax] That tail
[Noirlax] Is this Mac Anu?
[MartAnimE] there's so much drama
[ShadowBlazer3000] yeah this is Mac Anu
[Noirlax] such a contrast those motor boats with those row boats
[ShadowBlazer3000] it's like the only thing that didn't change as much in this new version
[MartAnimE] I like how the mascot thing is a chibi version of Ovan kinda
[Noirlax] no but it feels different because Subaru on the boat is so memorable for me
[ShadowBlazer3000] Sakisaka was in the bathroom a LONG time ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[ElenoreFanGirl] kissie kissie time
[ShadowBlazer3000] virus core
[ElenoreFanGirl] I'm surprised that haseo doesn't get pstd flashbacks from seeing old areas
[ShadowBlazer3000] he doesn't remember it
[MartAnimE] and I think he mostly had a good time in the older version
[ElenoreFanGirl] he doesn't have to remember it consciously
[MartAnimE] just that one incident at the end messed him up
[ShadowBlazer3000] Naobi is a Macabre Dancer class
[MartAnimE] sounds creepy
[Noirlax] It's funny how they are obsessed with such a small guild
[ShadowBlazer3000] not the guild but what they're after
[MartAnimE] yeah pretty strange they'd be obsessed over other players instead of playing the game
[MartAnimE] at least the Twilight Brigade is exploring the game, can't see why they're considered eccentric
[Noirlax] true Alex. Their guilds are a great contrast.
[ShadowBlazer3000] Naobi in particular has a strong interest in why he worries himself over other players Ovan in particular but that will come up later
[Noirlax] ah
[ShadowBlazer3000] it's the fact they're chasing a mythical item that may or may not exist is why they seem strange that and Ovan is very mysterious
[MartAnimE] lost ground looks like a church
[Noirlax] yeah
[ShadowBlazer3000] Dead World of Indieglut Lugh was the one with the tree
[ShadowBlazer3000] the Church is called Hulle Granz Cathedral
[ShadowBlazer3000] and Shino said what the waterfall is called, Arche Koeln Waterfall
[Noirlax] suppose it's real then it be more exciting
[MartAnimE] Shino being sassy XD
[Noirlax] :smile:
[MartAnimE] everyone needs to lighten up :sweat_smile:
[ElenoreFanGirl] no kidding
[ShadowBlazer3000] games are serious business
[Noirlax] games are serious business
[MartAnimE] I'm just having trouble feeling the threats
[MartAnimE] it's not like deaths are final
[MartAnimE] and if something unpleasant is happening to you you can just close the game :V
[ShadowBlazer3000] yeah lol this is my argument with SAO
[ShadowBlazer3000] I think this has my favorite Sakisaka - Tabby moment
[MartAnimE] I like the Twilight Brigade
[MartAnimE] they are focused on a goal and don't get involved in stupid drama
[ShadowBlazer3000] lol
[Noirlax] lol
[ShadowBlazer3000] Sakisaka I'm not Silly!
[ShadowBlazer3000] favorite scene
[ElenoreFanGirl] lol
[forlornhope] lol
[ShadowBlazer3000] but anyway
[ShadowBlazer3000] I was saying
[ShadowBlazer3000] there's this weird dichotomy with SAO and .hack
[ShadowBlazer3000] .hack//: The people who shouldn't be taking it super seriously take it super seriously
[ShadowBlazer3000] SAO: The people who should be taking it super seriously don't take it super seriously
[forlornhope] lol yeah
[MartAnimE] XD
[Noirlax] lol
[ElenoreFanGirl] and thankfully Log Horizon isn't like hack or SAO
[MartAnimE] oh no Tabby was PKed :V
[ShadowBlazer3000] yeah I'll have to really check Log Horizon
[ShadowBlazer3000] sounds interesting
[Noirlax] what do you mean thankfully?
[ElenoreFanGirl] the light novels are good too
[ShadowBlazer3000] guess it means it has its own identity and isn't trying hard to be either
[MartAnimE] I like .hack// I just think in SIGN the players seemed to be having more fun in general
[ShadowBlazer3000] granted SAO isn't trying to be .hack but other shows are trying to be SAO
[MartAnimE] but I think Roots is trying to have this gritty atmosphere
[Noirlax] I don't know about gritty Marta, but it's more conflicting and tense
[MartAnimE] well characters feel pretty cynical, at least
[Noirlax] yes that's true
[MartAnimE] not the Twilight Brigade or Phyllo
[MartAnimE] but everyone else
[Noirlax] I think the backgrounds sort of match that too, it's more commercial and industrialised.
[MartAnimE] yeah, so modern
[Noirlax] Sign was more idyllic.
[MartAnimE] more traditional fantasy
[MartAnimE] anyways, looks like we're done for tonight ^^
[Noirlax] Not yet :smile:
[Noirlax] we haven't finished chatting
[ShadowBlazer3000] Sign (World 1) was a more typical sword-and-sorcery fantasy
[MartAnimE] discussion is still going, but we got through 4 episodes
[Noirlax] yeah 4 eps good job
[Noirlax] I felt Roots is more competitive
[MartAnimE] yeah we'll mostly be doing 3
[MartAnimE] it's more competitive, but for no good reason
[MartAnimE] everyone could just be going about their business
[MartAnimE] there's just so much drama
[MartAnimE] it's kinda unpleasant
[Noirlax] I guess that's kinda the concept of the anime
[MartAnimE] but I appreciate the positive characters more because of it
[Noirlax] they wanted to explore another side to the MMO experience
[Noirlax] subconsciously that's true for me Marta
[Noirlax] Shino shines
[ShadowBlazer3000] I think it's just the characters are more narrowed here
[BeyondTime] She looks like Mimiru
[ShadowBlazer3000] SIGN feels like a bunch of people you could meet in an MMO
[MartAnimE] she kinda looks like Margaret a bit XD
[BeyondTime] And a bit like Margaret
[Noirlax] XD
[ShadowBlazer3000] Roots is more a group of characters all in one difficult situation
[Noirlax] Mimiru's Japanese VA is Tabby
[BeyondTime] I find the Margaret bit a bit unpleasant actually.
[ShadowBlazer3000] it's the eyes
[ShadowBlazer3000] again I don't know what happened to the character designer he just stopped after this
[ElenoreFanGirl] thus my headcannon
[MartAnimE] how so, James?
[BeyondTime] I'd prefer she didn't look like a character from a different Bee Train canon.
[MartAnimE] well she's different enough I think
[BeyondTime] Sorry Kari what is your headcanon?
[Noirlax] I like Shino's big round hat and colours.
[MartAnimE] I just like her personality, it's soothing ^^
[BeyondTime] It's disconcerting to see one character but end up thinking of another one I guess.
[BeyondTime] Were you thinking Margaret plays in Za Warudo R:2 Kari?
[ElenoreFanGirl] That Elenore is playing as Shino because she does look like Margaret
[Noirlax] Her personality is nice, personally prefer Subaru's a bit more.
[MartAnimE] we get to see more of Subaru
[MartAnimE] Subaru is a better developed character
[BeyondTime] Oh I recall you mentioning that now. Elenore, Margaret and Vanessa playing an MMO together.
[Noirlax] I think I find Subaru more softly spoken and gentle, I guess I like that
[ElenoreFanGirl] and Margaret is playing as Haseo because she wants to look at a guy's butt
[MartAnimE] but for the time we spend with Shino she made a lasting impression for me
[ShadowBlazer3000] yeah I'd prefer Subaru too
[BeyondTime] And Doon running around pking them in Ricky's headcanon I am sure.
[ShadowBlazer3000] if only in GU/Roots canon then Atoli
[MartAnimE] does everyone have a headcanon? :V
[BeyondTime] I do not.
[ShadowBlazer3000] not really I tend to go with what's in official canon
[ElenoreFanGirl] my headcanon is for laughs
[Noirlax] Maybe Rosenberg played as Ovan and LA as Haseo I dunno XD
[BeyondTime] I'm kind of the same. I prefer to stick as close to canon as possible.
[ElenoreFanGirl] as I said I have it for the laughs
[Noirlax] I prefer Dooncanon obviously
[BeyondTime] There is always some room for interpretation, but I dislike reading total departure.
[ShadowBlazer3000] I get the idea of art being interpretive but i'm also weary on the idea
[BeyondTime] Understood, honestly your headcanon can be whatever you want.
[BeyondTime] It's your brain after all. :stuck_out_tongue:
[MartAnimE] yeah there's room for interpretation for sure, but I think if a fan projects too much it starts becoming a different character
[MartAnimE] and, especially in fanfiction, if you push to far you alienate the audience
[Noirlax] I feel with Mashimo being interpretive is safer than others. I feel when he hints it, he really does hint it.
[Noirlax] Now what sort of fanfiction would do that Marta? :smile:
[BeyondTime] Well I am guessing Joke Doon doesn't appeal as much to people outside BTF.
[MartAnimE] like, for example, if I wrote about how Limelda has a secret fear of clows or something :V
[BeyondTime] We're all in on the joke.
[Noirlax] you mean it appeals to you James, and me :smile:
[BeyondTime] I'd be afraid of Clow too if I were her. :stuck_out_tongue:
[ShadowBlazer3000] clow or clowns
[Noirlax] Clows or clowns?
[MartAnimE] typo
[Noirlax] clown cards are pretty scary too :smile:
[BeyondTime] Oh I'm guessing clowns intrigue her to be honest.
[ElenoreFanGirl] Clow was a bad ass magi
[BeyondTime] :stuck_out_tongue:
[BeyondTime] exactly Kari
[MartAnimE] ok never mind :V
[ElenoreFanGirl] so yeah why wouldn't she be afraid :smile:
[BeyondTime] I understand what you mean Marta.
[Noirlax] Talking about Limelda I still haven't got feedback for that fanfic competition
[MartAnimE] if we're done discussing Roots we can go back to the forum chat?
[Noirlax] I enjoyed this, so glad I'm revisiting Roots
[ShadowBlazer3000] sure
[ElenoreFanGirl] I'm going to head back to FF14, it was fun watching with you all
[Noirlax] feel like I missed something from my first watching.
[BeyondTime] Have fun Kari
[Noirlax] bai Elenore
[forlornhope] bai kari
[MartAnimE] bai Kari
[forlornhope] :dog:
[MartAnimE] thanks for dropping by :dog:
[MartAnimE] ***
[ShadowBlazer3000] bye
Noirlax - Last Sunday at 12:30 AM
thanks for not hitting me with a frying pan too. ***
[ShadowBlazer3000] I know I've caught a few bits of foreshadowing I've missed a few times over
[Noirlax] oh which parts?
[MartAnimE] yeah definitely a different experience the second time around
[ShadowBlazer3000] no spoilers but mostly when Ovan talks about seeding and re birth
[Noirlax] ah yeah that's cool
[Noirlax] and also revisiting Haseo deciding between the two guilds
[MartAnimE] I feel this show is best enjoyed without commenting too much actually, you miss a lot of the visual impact
[BeyondTime] Those guilds seem more like mafias too me.
[MartAnimE] if you're typing all the time
[ShadowBlazer3000] they'll make you offers you can't refuse
[BeyondTime] In normal MMO's you can just leave a guild if you don't like it and join another one.
[Noirlax] yeah I guess typed a bit too much sorry
[MartAnimE] nuh, not talking about you
[MartAnimE] I feel I typed too much and end up missing more than I wanted :V
[Noirlax] I feel that happened to me as well
[ShadowBlazer3000] I watched it about 2 years ago much of it is still pretty fresh
[ShadowBlazer3000] played through GU again only last year
[Noirlax] In a way that's a good thing though it means its a good anime that requires your attention
[MartAnimE] yeah
[Noirlax] That will be fresh for you then Alex
[MartAnimE] I dunno, I feel I enjoyed it more all those years ago
[MartAnimE] and that makes me kinda sad :frowning:
[forlornhope] honestly don't remember a lot of it since I only watched it when it was first coming out through fan subs
[Noirlax] I'm kinda enjoying this more. Marta, it's still early on maybe the seed will grow on you
[forlornhope] and that was 2006. wow :open_mouth:
[ShadowBlazer3000] boy that was a long time ago
[forlornhope] I feel old
[MartAnimE] when BTF was only 1 year old ^^
[Noirlax] I bought my discs around 5 or 6 years ago and watched it about then I think
[ShadowBlazer3000] I watched it on Cartoon Network (well I taped it, because screw getting up at 6 AM when you're in high school)
[forlornhope] lol
[Noirlax] I know I watched Noir before some anime fans were even born XD
[forlornhope] did they even air the whole series on cn? feel like that was one of the shows they shoved under the rug
[ShadowBlazer3000] they only aired half of it
[Noirlax] booo
[ShadowBlazer3000] they went into reruns randomly
[ShadowBlazer3000] then dropped it all together
[ShadowBlazer3000] I had to finish it on disc after that
[ShadowBlazer3000] that's when I wanted to play G.U. so I watched what I had on video tape then bought the last couple of volumes to finish out then played the games
[Noirlax] oh you didn't buy the whole set?
[ShadowBlazer3000] no not until the Funimation set
[Noirlax] oh I see
[ShadowBlazer3000] I was still buying discs retail then and volumes were $25 a piece plus tax
[Noirlax] that's old skool prices :v
[BeyondTime] The game set is $49 on steam I think
[Noirlax] So Marta where's the OST link?
[Noirlax] oh nice
[ShadowBlazer3000] yeah Last Recode which has all three GU games plus a bonus 4th
[Noirlax] $49 isn't bad but might wait for a sale
[ShadowBlazer3000] weird to see it on PC but hey times have changed
[MartAnimE]
https://anime.thehylia.com/soundtracks/album/dot-hack-roots-original-soundtrack[MartAnimE] this might work
[forlornhope] yeah not as many exclusives these days
[Noirlax] thank you :smiley:
[Noirlax] everything is multi-platform though some are ported badly :stuck_out_tongue:
[MartAnimE]
https://anime.thehylia.com/soundtracks/album/dot-hack-roots-original-soundtrack-2[BeyondTime] Yeah the price will come down. I'm patient and games often seem to fall under $10 eventually.
[MartAnimE]
https://anime.thehylia.com/soundtracks/album/dot-hack-roots-ed-single-boukoku-kakusei-catharsis[MartAnimE]
https://anime.thehylia.com/soundtracks/album/hack-roots-op-single-silly-go-round[MartAnimE] think that's all of them
[forlornhope] :thumbsup:
[Noirlax] yay thanks
[Noirlax] Supply and Demand as Tawaraya says, James
[MartAnimE] if we're done I'll post an ending now
[MartAnimE] ~ THE END ~