[09:34] MartAnimE: @Rewatch in about 30 minutes!
[09:56] Noirlax: Need a few more min to get ready
[09:57] forlornhope: Same
[10:03] MartAnimE: no prob, just got here myself
[10:03] MartAnimE: report when ready
[10:06] BiitoreinGoji: ready
[10:07] Noirlax: ready
[10:07] ShadowBlazer3000: ready
[10:07] MartAnimE: ready :dog:
[10:08] Noirlax: More bishie subtext today
[10:08] MartAnimE: yes! :smile:
[10:08] MartAnimE: think we haven't had Ludwig and Isaac episodes yet
[10:08] Noirlax: Get the fangirls excited :smile:
[10:09] MartAnimE: I forgot who I was shipping already :thinking:
[10:10] Noirlax: Ship them all, it's free
[10:10] MartAnimE: maybe Orphe/Ed
[10:10] Noirlax: Free shipping
[10:10] MartAnimE: lol yeah but I like ships with substance more than crack pairings :smile:
[10:11] Noirlax: Still it's ship one get one free
[10:11] Noirlax: :smile:
[10:11] forlornhope: ok, I'm ready now
[10:11] MartAnimE: :thumbsup:
[10:12] MartAnimE: I will post last go
[10:12] forlornhope: go
[10:12] BiitoreinGoji: go
[10:12] Noirlax: go
[10:13] MartAnimE: @ShadowBlazer3000
[10:15] MartAnimE: everything ok? :thinking:
[10:16] Noirlax: Did the blimp in that anime attack you? :open_mouth:
[10:16] MartAnimE: he got shipped into another realm :sweat_smile:
[10:16] forlornhope: lol
[10:17] ShadowBlazer3000: go
[10:17] MartAnimE: Go~! :orpherus:
[10:17] MartAnimE: episodes 5 and 6 tonight
[10:18] Noirlax: Ludwig and Orpheus good contrast, yellow and purple
[10:18] MartAnimE: they're colour coded for your convenience
[10:18] Noirlax: yup :smile:
[10:18] forlornhope: lol
[10:19] Noirlax: Ludwig the perfect student
[10:19] MartAnimE: Lui's episode
[10:19] forlornhope: smol ludwig
[10:19] BiitoreinGoji: Little Snape
[10:19] MartAnimE: maybe now he will seem less edgelord to me
[10:19] Noirlax: Hauteur
[10:20] BiitoreinGoji: Not many Bee Train characters have beards, do they?
[10:21] ShadowBlazer3000: no not really
[10:21] MartAnimE: guess not
[10:21] Noirlax: Baron Lichenstein. Guess not
[10:21] MartAnimE: no love for the Duke
[10:22] MartAnimE: creepy cloak spy in the car :chloe:
[10:22] Noirlax: Shady stuff
[10:22] MartAnimE: Isaac is too cool for horses :motorcycle:
[10:23] MartAnimE: Ludwig, marry this lady!
[10:23] MartAnimE: but father, I'm gay :ludwig:
[10:23] forlornhope: :smile:
[10:23] Noirlax: for :orpherus:
[10:23] MartAnimE: totally :smile:
[10:23] MartAnimE: big yaoi tsun tsun
[10:24] Noirlax: big guy uses little teacup
[10:25] MartAnimE: ominous blimp
[10:25] BiitoreinGoji: full moon
[10:26] Noirlax: nice transition with the book closing
[10:26] ShadowBlazer3000:
https://tenor.com/view/moon-anime-gif-21502361[10:26] Noirlax: purple moon :open_mouth:
[10:26] MartAnimE: pretty purple moon
[10:27] MartAnimE: poor Naoji, never had a chance :broken_heart:
[10:29] MartAnimE: so many fangirls and fanboys
[10:29] Noirlax: yup
[10:31] Noirlax: reason and emotion, understanding oneself interesting
[10:32] MartAnimE: it's refreshing to watch a group of male characters in an anime talking about feelings and displaying emotional intelligence
[10:32] Noirlax: true
[10:32] BiitoreinGoji: 3D models?
[10:32] MartAnimE: where?
[10:33] ShadowBlazer3000: the chandlers and family crest
[10:33] ShadowBlazer3000: done in CGI
[10:33] MartAnimE: ah ok, looked away for a sec
[10:33] forlornhope: yeah kinda looked cg
[10:33] BiitoreinGoji: At least they look better than Berserk
[10:34] MartAnimE: Camus always wears shorts
[10:34] MartAnimE: :camus:
[10:34] MartAnimE: :shorts:
[10:34] ShadowBlazer3000: they're comfy and easy to wear
[10:34] MartAnimE: lol yes
[10:35] MartAnimE: oh damn
[10:35] BiitoreinGoji: It's war
[10:35] MartAnimE: a murder attempt
[10:35] Noirlax: attempted assassination :open_mouth:
[10:35] MartAnimE: good thing they have Camus
[10:35] forlornhope: oh no :open_mouth:
[10:37] MartAnimE: meow :cat:
[10:38] MartAnimE: the cat knows! the cat saw everything :myshkin:
[10:38] BiitoreinGoji: "I don't know what to believe anymore" so true
[10:38] Noirlax: The cat was the one who planted the bomb. :open_mouth:
[10:38] Noirlax: True Goji
[10:38] MartAnimE: you've seen sniper cat
[10:38] MartAnimE: now get ready for bomber cat
[10:39] Noirlax: That was interesting, political intrigue coming in now
[10:39] Noirlax: as well as sensitivity
[10:39] BiitoreinGoji: Like Game of Thrones
[10:39] MartAnimE: yeah feel there'll be more of it
[10:39] Noirlax: Ludwig seemed to have worked out they might do something like this :v
[10:40] MartAnimE: he's a smart guy
[10:40] BiitoreinGoji: I'm gonna make a tea
[10:40] BiitoreinGoji: be right back
[10:40] Noirlax: Very much a means justifies the ends Ludwig but actually he's hiding he's kind of a softie
[10:40] MartAnimE: go ahead :teapot:
[10:41] Noirlax: and Camus knows :rose:
10:41] MartAnimE: yeah, a tsundere
[10:41] MartAnimE: Camus can see the best in everyone
[10:41] MartAnimE: even if they're trying to hide it
[10:42] Noirlax: You can't hide the bromance in you Ludwig
[10:42] MartAnimE: or rather, he can sense people's true feelings and intentions
[10:42] Noirlax: I see everything!
[10:42] forlornhope: lol
[10:42] MartAnimE: but I think they're cousins :smile:
[10:42] forlornhope: maybe he just has resting bitch face :smile:
[10:42] ShadowBlazer3000: when has that ever stopped anyone
[10:42] MartAnimE: he does!
[10:43] MartAnimE: kissing cousins :two_hearts:
[10:43] Noirlax: There's also Naoji and Orpheus
[10:44] MartAnimE: and Naoji and Ed
[10:44] Noirlax: Yaoi harem
[10:44] MartAnimE: and Naoji and Ludwig
[10:44] MartAnimE: so many ships
[10:44] BiitoreinGoji: I'm back :tea:
[10:44] MartAnimE: I forget how Isaac fits with the rest
[10:44] MartAnimE: wb Goji
[10:44] Noirlax: wb
[10:44] MartAnimE: any more thoughts on the episode?
[10:45] BiitoreinGoji: I just found out Isaac and the Beast Titan have the same voice actor
[10:45] BiitoreinGoji: Takehito Koyasu
[10:45] Noirlax: I think another very good episode, thoughtful.
[10:45] BiitoreinGoji: Interesting so far
[10:45] MartAnimE: oh Takehito Koyasu is a big name in anime
[10:45] Noirlax: It's an anime for pondering and relationships rather than for the action
[10:46] MartAnimE: I first heard about him back in the 90s
[10:47] MartAnimE: yeah Riki, there's some action, but it's not an action show
[10:47] MartAnimE: more about the characters and the intrigue
[10:48] Noirlax: That ep was a lot of talking and the action that I only really noticed was the :bomb:
[10:48] MartAnimE: yup
[10:48] MartAnimE: there's occasional things like assassination attempts, duels
[10:49] MartAnimE: but they often serve to illustrate a more personal or political point
[10:49] Noirlax: these things just help the conversation and intrigue along lol
[10:49] Noirlax: yeah
[10:49] MartAnimE: yeah precisely
[10:50] MartAnimE: it's a battle of ideologies between characters, fought with philosophical discussions :smile:
[10:50] BiitoreinGoji: Yeah a plot usually requires the viewer to remember certain things.
[10:50] Noirlax: lol Marta, it's kind of true
[10:51] Noirlax: Ludwig is a realist
[10:51] Noirlax: kinda Machiavellian
[10:51] BiitoreinGoji: And sometimes people that don't want to remember what they watch will have ludicrous takes like this:
https://twitter.com/SketchedBat/status/1511114035525304323[10:52] MartAnimE: yeah Ludwig is very aware of his social standing, and tries to use it to his advantage
[10:52] MartAnimE: while some of the other characters might feel trapped by it
[10:53] Noirlax: true
[10:53] Noirlax: I kinda like what other people find boring Goji :sweat_smile:
[10:53] MartAnimE: but I agree with Camus, he does seem rather sad, like he denies his own humanity in a way
[10:53] BiitoreinGoji: Me too.
[10:53] Noirlax: true
[10:54] MartAnimE: yeah, same, and I think that's particularly true for Bee Train anime
[10:54] Noirlax: It's hard to find birds of a feather in that respect but I'm glad we have BTF
[10:55] BiitoreinGoji: It's almost like Bee Train anime cared about the animators making it and storytelling
[10:56] ShadowBlazer3000: i agree
[10:56] MartAnimE: the studio was a hospital for animators after all ^^
[10:56] Noirlax: I feel BT anime cared a lot about their storytelling and ideas but don't have the best animators. They are there to nuture them.
[10:57] MartAnimE: and I think they made a great point that you don't need great animation to tell a great story
[10:57] Noirlax: I mean it's not a paradise for people who want to do cool sakuga effects and fights
[10:57] Noirlax: I think so Marta
[10:58] ShadowBlazer3000: and this may be a bit counter intuitive but I think they were usually better at storytelling more than animation. Like when really indy off beat animators and artists are together I feel they get too focused on the animation. It's why I have a hard time getting into Trigger's anime
[10:58] MartAnimE: ah that makes sense Alex
[10:58] Noirlax: You have a good point Alex
[10:58] Noirlax: I like to classify animation on a spectrum
[10:59] BiitoreinGoji: Kill La Kill's got a good story behind it, I haven't seen Little Witch Academia.
[10:59] MartAnimE: another of their strengths was I always felt their characters were very believable and relatable
[10:59] Noirlax: one end is animation for the sake of animators, it's all visual movement and flow, the other end is animation done for the sake of directing/storytelling.
[11:00] MartAnimE: relying less on archetypes or tropes and more on trying to make them sound human
[11:00] MartAnimE: in all their flaws and subtleties
[11:01] MartAnimE: and the quietness and introspection also, which probably resonates a lot with introverts
[11:01] Noirlax: yeah, I find animation which I find technically wow but emotionally doesn't resonate as much.
[11:02] Noirlax: Different strokes (of the pen) for different folks :smile:
[11:02] MartAnimE: yup
