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« Reply #285 on: January 26, 2012, 03:36:29 AM »

5 dog quotes

A dog is not "almost human" and I know of no greater insult to the canine race than to describe it as such.  ~John Holmes

Properly trained, a man can be dog's best friend.  ~Corey Ford

Dogs laugh, but they laugh with their tails.  ~Max Eastman, Enjoyment of Laughter

Happiness is a warm puppy.  ~Charles M. Schulz

My dog is worried about the economy because Alpo is up to 99 cents a can.  That's almost $7.00 in dog money.  ~Joe Weinstein
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« Reply #286 on: January 26, 2012, 09:40:15 PM »

"Keiko would have been the ideal choice for the live version but you know…Kajiura thinks Wakana is a fucking goddess."--Sora no Uta, in a rant about Yuki Kajiura's abysmal disuse of Keiko Kubota and Yuriko Kaida

"Please don't come to me with that soprano = melody and alto = support shit because I'm not having it. Altos weren't put on this Earth to support some wambulance sounding crows." --Sora no Uta from the same rant
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« Reply #287 on: January 28, 2012, 11:40:26 PM »

There is but one truly serious philosophical problem, and that is suicide. - Albert Camus

If the world were clear, art would not exist. - Albert Camus
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« Reply #288 on: January 29, 2012, 01:14:38 AM »

"For the love of Princess Elise's non existent panty hoes, I finally found one!" -chuggaaconroy, after finding a Slakoth
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« Reply #289 on: February 11, 2012, 06:28:34 AM »

Zen minus Buddhism equals Taoism
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« Reply #290 on: February 18, 2012, 09:06:25 AM »


"All you need for a movie is a gun and a girl." - Jean-Luc Godard

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« Reply #291 on: February 25, 2012, 09:03:09 AM »

Life asked Death: "Why do people love me and hate you?"
Death replied: "Because you are a beautiful lie and I am a painful truth."
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« Reply #292 on: February 25, 2012, 09:28:54 AM »

If I take death into my life, acknowledge it, and face it squarely, I will free myself from the anxiety of death and the pettiness of life - and only then will I be free to become myself.

Martin Heidegger
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« Reply #293 on: February 25, 2012, 06:04:15 PM »

"Keiko would have been the ideal choice for the live version but you know…Kajiura thinks Wakana is a fucking goddess."--Sora no Uta, in a rant about Yuki Kajiura's abysmal disuse of Keiko Kubota and Yuriko Kaida

"Please don't come to me with that soprano = melody and alto = support shit because I'm not having it. Altos weren't put on this Earth to support some wambulance sounding crows." --Sora no Uta from the same rant


I'm not sure what he's on about; Kaida has a long solo in the latest Kalafina single, as with the most conspicuous tracks on After Eden (Magia, magnolia, probably a couple I'm forgetting)...

Also, technically, Kaida is a contralto, not an alto!
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« Reply #294 on: February 25, 2012, 07:37:37 PM »

"Maybe they are just more interested in life and human nature than some of the mindless, characterless action out there..."

My friend piro opines on why bee train fans typically like slice-of-life anime also.
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« Reply #295 on: February 26, 2012, 03:44:11 AM »

"Keiko would have been the ideal choice for the live version but you know…Kajiura thinks Wakana is a fucking goddess."--Sora no Uta, in a rant about Yuki Kajiura's abysmal disuse of Keiko Kubota and Yuriko Kaida

"Please don't come to me with that soprano = melody and alto = support shit because I'm not having it. Altos weren't put on this Earth to support some wambulance sounding crows." --Sora no Uta from the same rant


I'm not sure what he's on about; Kaida has a long solo in the latest Kalafina single, as with the most conspicuous tracks on After Eden (Magia, magnolia, probably a couple I'm forgetting)...

Also, technically, Kaida is a contralto, not an alto!

I think I might have heard some support or something in Magia and Magnolia, if I listen real closely....

I think Sora no Uta is talking about Kaida actually having a major singing part (a la Here We Stand In The Morning Dew), not just doing vocal music.
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« Reply #296 on: February 26, 2012, 11:43:12 AM »

Mistake - when I said Kaida was a contralto, I was thinking of Keiko Kubota. Kaida is a proper alto, Kubota is a contralto, and when I was mentioning the solos in Magia and magnolia, it was Kubota I was thinking of. /brainfart

Frankly, I thought Kaida was somewhat misused in Here We Stand... it has her singing near the top of her range throughout, which doesn't do much to show of her real skills. There's no point in forcing an alto to sing like a soprano just because one likes melodic alto pieces, except for a change of pace.

I sing countertenor myself, which has basically the same range as a contralto, and I especially love singing along to Kubota's voice, who is my favourite Japanese vocal artist. I don't like singing melodies since it usually either forces me to strain my voice towards that of a soprano (which I haven't been in years!) or drop to baritone (which is very difficult).

Here We Stand in the Morning Dew is a lovely melody in alto voice, I grant, but I'd rather sing a challenging, enervating contralto descant than a glamorous mezzo soprano harmony, and without knowing Kaida's personal opinions on the subject, that's what we generally like doing. I'm not sure what "support" is meant to signify in music... but if Magia is an example of altos supporting, then our job is very fun indeed! Cheesy

...In any case, wasn't the original "Here We Stand in the Morning Dew" sung by Saeko Chiba? She is a mezzo soprano... if you contrast the highest notes from 2.30-ish from Chiba's to Kaida's, you hear Kaida forcing them out of the corners of her mouth (I only manage it very early in the morning!), but it's well within Chiba's range.... well, I digress.
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« Reply #297 on: February 26, 2012, 07:31:35 PM »

@_@...Let me get back to you after I grab some music lessons.
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« Reply #298 on: February 27, 2012, 01:52:04 PM »

@_@...Let me get back to you after I grab some music lessons.

oh sorry! I wasn't trying to be confusing Cheesy

The grades of voice are as follows:

Soprano (Chiaki)
Mezzo-Soprano (Saeko Chiba)
Alto (Yuriko Kaida)
Contralto (Keiko Kubota)
Countertenor (me)
Tenor (Pavarotti)
Baritone (most common male voice)
Bass (Paul Robeson)

Or more simply, you could just call them Soprano > Alto > Tenor > Bass, though most people are in effect mezzo-soprano or baritone. Countertenors and contraltos are very rare.

And generally, you have the main plot of a song (the melody), which is typically maintained by the highest voice in the harmony (collection of voices), which is in turn typically a Soprano.

Now there's a lot of argument as to what the purpose of the melody is, but generally it ends up being that linear bit of music that you hum when remembering a song... we should all have the same tune come to mind, if I am to say:

How come I must know / where obsession needs to go?

Now, if we were all to sing this together, the men of btf would have to sing this originally soprano melody in baritone. One or two of us might even have to sing it even lower, in a low bass, and perhaps a few of the ladies would have to sing it somewhere inbetween, in alto. If we're all singing it together, it would sound o.k., but perhaps not as "musical" as you'd want it to, since you'd have the same melody being sung at 2-4 pitches.

So instead, you frequently have an alternate linear plot which follows the melody but with variations. I'm guessing this is what Sora means by "support", though imho that's a very poor description.

Sora seems to be arguing that more melodies ought to be written for lower voices, not just the soprano. The points I was trying to make were:

(1) people who sing at lower pitches don't usually mind singing off the melody; in fact, they often prefer it. Here We Stand is a good example, since it is a marvellous song originally written for a soprano, but it's hard (albeit possible) for an alto to sing. Songs which are written for lower voices (like Old Man River, for bass), frequently end up feeling more subtle or understated (if equally powerful). Human voices are not purely random factors of pitch, they go with a certain personality / feeling.

(2) Kajiura herself is very good at providing long sections of songs devoted to alto or contralto voice, and that hasn't changed in recent years. This in itself is very unusual in a female vocal scene largely dominated by sopranos.

In short, if I were an alto in Kajiura's care, I don't think I'd be the least bit disappointed with her treatment of my voice!
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« Reply #299 on: March 23, 2012, 07:47:49 PM »

"How do you know those aren't lyrics?! It's a special language that Yuki Kajiura uses to talk to the rain!" - Random YouTube comment on "I talk to the Rain"
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