[MartAnimE]:all aboard~!
[noirlax]:all aboard ~!
[noirlax]:arrgh!
[jmsrober]:Marta invented a new type of train engine?
[Forlorn Hope]:which ep are we on? 19?
[AlexShadow]:yeah 19
[MartAnimE]:lol
[MartAnimE]:so we're doing 19 to 21 tonight
[MartAnimE]:get your episodes ready
[Forlorn Hope]:I'm already set
[JP Yuri]:Me too
[noirlax]:Just getting a quick drink
[noirlax]:just tea I swear
[noirlax]:done now
[MartAnimE]:what kind of tea?
[noirlax]:I'm not sure exactly which type of chinese tea
[noirlax]:orange pekoe, oolong I dunno
[MartAnimE]:I'm all set with drink and episode
[JP Yuri]:Me too
[noirlax]:I'm all set to episode with drink
[jmsrober]:set
[MartAnimE]:go~?
[AlexShadow]:go
[noirlax]:go~!
[Forlorn Hope]:go
[jmsrober]:go
[JP Yuri]:go
[Forlorn Hope]:lol otaru for shogun
[MartAnimE]:deciding on a new shogun, how topical :v
[JP Yuri]:Of course!
[noirlax]:lol I like how cherry thinks XD
[MartAnimE]:Otaru wouldn't be a good Shogun XD
[MartAnimE]:he's a nice guy, but not very wise :v
[noirlax]:Maybe he needs a wise adviser like Hanagata
[jmsrober]:Cherry's fantasies are almost as bad as Hanagata's.
[MartAnimE]:lol yeah
[noirlax]:lol yeah
[MartAnimE]:I think the next shogun will be a pure clone anyways
[MartAnimE]:concrete cake :v
[jmsrober]:I think he plan is for there not to be another clone of him.
[noirlax]:That's a hard bite :v
[jmsrober]:He was living in an unnatural state to bring about a necessary event. Once the event passes he ceases to be necessary and can rest.
[MartAnimE]:yeah if his plan goes accordingly there might be no need for clones
[MartAnimE]:he wants the maiden circuits uh oh
[noirlax]:maiden circuits
[noirlax]:lol
[MartAnimE]:they're playing doctor -_-
[Forlorn Hope]:*facepalms* :p
[noirlax]:well that scene requires some examination
[MartAnimE]:the Saber Dolls ain't kidding anymore
[MartAnimE]:quack :v
[noirlax]:quackle quackle
[MartAnimE]:that wasn't very well planned ^^;
[noirlax]:Its because they are desperate
[noirlax]:for Lord Faust's 'love'
[MartAnimE]:yeah, it's sad really
[MartAnimE]:aww she broke T_T
[JP Yuri]:T_T
[noirlax]:How did Lime do that
[MartAnimE]:someone stole Lime's heart
[Forlorn Hope]:don't mind me. it's the onions I swear T_T
[noirlax]:I hope they can fix it
[MartAnimE]:I wonder
[noirlax]:It's a circuit :v
[Forlorn Hope]:end of ep
[MartAnimE]:(it's not like I watched this 20 times before or anything)
[jmsrober]:They call it a maiden circuit, but it's more like a cpu.
[jmsrober]:Tiger is a really tragic figure in this series.
[jmsrober]:Ultimately she has a really powerful character presence though.
[MartAnimE]:yeah it's really sad
[jmsrober]:This show wouldn't be as good without that part in it.
[MartAnimE]:she deserves better
[MartAnimE]:what did you all think?
[noirlax]:That's true about Tiger's presence. I keep thinking that having circuits they can patch them up. Regardless they deserve better treatment those Gartlant Sabers.
[jmsrober]:She definitely did.
[jmsrober]:The maiden circuits all start out the same. With the right master she would have been normal.
[JP Yuri]:I'll miss Tiger T_T
[jmsrober]:In the end her situation is a metaphor for warped childhood development.
[noirlax]:Like a Chloe Saber?
[JP Yuri]:Also, I realized that Black Arachnia from Beast Wars does her voice! :O
[JP Yuri]:Venus Terzo
[noirlax]:oh
[Forlorn Hope]:cool
[MartAnimE]:shall we start 20?
[JP Yuri]:brb
[MartAnimE]:okies
[noirlax]:ok give me a minute
[JP Yuri]:Back
[jmsrober]:Yeah Chloe is a good example, but I think the difference is Tiger was shown to be normal once. Chloe was never normal.
[noirlax]:I guess you can say that
[MartAnimE]:yeah, not very normal for a little child to have the reaction Chloe had while witnessing Kirika's murder of Mireille's parents
[noirlax]:The Sabers remind me a little of Ellis too. A blank slate to start off with and slowly understanding what it means to be human.
[MartAnimE]:she was brainwashed from an early age
[jmsrober]:I mean within the context of information given within the series.
[noirlax]:I dunno if Tiger ever was normal per se
[noirlax]:but she seemed normal to Faust at least
[jmsrober]:We can't judge Chloe before that memory, or Tiger before her earliest shown memory of young Faust.
[MartAnimE]:she had a cute relationship with chibi Faust
[noirlax]:yeah
[MartAnimE]:before they brainwashed him :v
[noirlax]:Kari might like this show. Except she will have a maid circuit. :v
[AlexShadow]:brainwashed or replaced him with another clone?
[jmsrober]:She was a machine with programmed loyalty to a man who was warped by his father and mad scientist.
[MartAnimE]:XD
[jmsrober]:Brainwashed.
[MartAnimE]:he was brainwashed, as in, the previous clones memories were implanted on him
[noirlax]:I wonder if Sabers have a programmed loyalty too James?
[MartAnimE]:but a part of him is still his original self
[MartAnimE]:it's odd because the original Faust wasn't such a bad guy, his grief and hatred must have overtaken his personality over the centuries
[noirlax]:Perhaps power does this to people over the centuries
[noirlax]:
[jmsrober]:All the marionette's have a loyalty to their master.
[noirlax]:Your future clones will be terrible Parta!
[MartAnimE]:it might look like he's just power hungry at first, but he has an higher goal he's aiming for
[jmsrober]:But only a few of them have maiden circuits.
[MartAnimE]:no cloning plz! XD
[noirlax]:XD
[noirlax]:lol
[jmsrober]:Yeah I don't get people cloning their pets. Maybe the DNA is the same, but the mind is a totally different being.
[MartAnimE]:is that really something the average person does?
[noirlax]:He's willing to do some extreme violence for his higher goal I have to say.
[MartAnimE]:sounds like it would be expensive
[MartAnimE]:yes Riki
[jmsrober]:Average no, but I think it's not much more expensive than a car.
[noirlax]:Only rich people can clone their pets I think
[jmsrober]:Like 40k iirc.
[noirlax]:wow that's quite a bit
[MartAnimE]:that's kinda sad, with all the homeless pets waiting to be adopted :v
[MartAnimE]:they'll never have the same pet back, that's just denial ^^;
[jmsrober]:That's kind of my point.
[noirlax]:I guess some people get really attached. Yeah denial.
[Forlorn Hope]:yeah that'd be too sad to have a pet that looks like your old one but isn't ^^
[MartAnimE]:yeah I'd rather cherish the good memories but honour the previous pet by loving another animal in need <3
[noirlax]:Yeah, living things, time, places can't be cloned in their entirety.
[jmsrober]:Which is good because it means Doon lines won't be around in the 22nd century.
[noirlax]:I can clone my computer games but that's usually called pirating
[MartAnimE]:XD
[noirlax]:I'll clone myself to make my future clones make even worse Doon lines
[AlexShadow]:groan
[Forlorn Hope]:lol lets not and say we did :v
[noirlax]:Alex you sound like Kari there
[JP Yuri]:lol
[jmsrober]:If he's ever trapped on a planet with 5 other men he will create marionette's with punning circuits in order to save civilization.
[noirlax]:save isn't the right word
[jmsrober]:Doon civilization then?
[MartAnimE]:you will doon civilization
[noirlax]:lol Marta
[noirlax]:and James started it :v
[MartAnimE]:are we ready for 20 then? XD
[AlexShadow]:ready
[jmsrober]:ready
[Forlorn Hope]:ready
[MartAnimE]:go~!
[AlexShadow]:go
[jmsrober]:go
[noirlax]:go~!
[JP Yuri]:go
[Forlorn Hope]:go
[MartAnimE]:poor Lime
[Forlorn Hope]:no don't listen to him lime :v
[MartAnimE]:sounds pretty shady -_-
[noirlax]:He might just teach her Zen meditation
[noirlax]:I guess not lol
[MartAnimE]:you'll see what his deal is :v
[noirlax]:jk
[MartAnimE]:the feels ain't over yet XD
[noirlax]:Someone stole her heart
[MartAnimE]:gah those dead eyes O_O
[noirlax]:we will all look like that eventually
[MartAnimE]:grim thought
[noirlax]:sorry
[noirlax]:oh wheels
[MartAnimE]:Hanagata is at his best in this episode, he can be a supporting friend when he wants :v
[Forlorn Hope]:pin wheels
[MartAnimE]:traitor!!!
[MartAnimE]:this is pretty depressing -_-
[noirlax]:Sad for Otaru
[jmsrober]:In the end man needs woman, but this is a bit on the weird side.
[noirlax]:he wants her to be living/breathing but no
[MartAnimE]:sad for Obiichi too
[noirlax]:I feel sad for him
[MartAnimE]:It makes me think "why can't they make more maiden circuits" but then I remember the ending... :v
[JP Yuri]:I'm sorry, but I'm gonna go to bed
[jmsrober]:He just happens to have a laptop with a maiden circuit slot in it....
[Forlorn Hope]:aww
[JP Yuri]:Continue without me
[MartAnimE]:aww shall we stop?
[MartAnimE]:we can continue next week
[JP Yuri]:No
[AlexShadow]:at least finish the episode
[JP Yuri]:Stopping after only 1 1/2 episodes is ridiculous
[MartAnimE]:are you feeling alright?
[JP Yuri]:I'm laying on the couch napping right now
[JP Yuri]:And I was 'blahh..." earlier today
[JP Yuri]:I felt like I'd come down with something, plus it's that time of the month now
[AlexShadow]:right best for you to get some rest
[JP Yuri]:And sometime in the afternoon at work today, my get up and go just...got up and went
[MartAnimE]:yeah take care
[JP Yuri]:And everything seemed endless
[JP Yuri]:Alright
[noirlax]:take care
[jmsrober]:Night Sheila
[Forlorn Hope]:night sheila
[JP Yuri]:Good night, y'all
[MartAnimE]:bai bai
[MartAnimE]:***
[JP Yuri]:***
[AlexShadow]:good night
[noirlax]:Night Sheila
[noirlax]:bai bai
[noirlax]:***
[AlexShadow]:Fem Robocop
[jmsrober]:So what are we doing?
[MartAnimE]:I guess we're finishing this episode at least
[jmsrober]:ok
[jmsrober]:I notice Otaru's sword suddenly grew just like Syaoran's martial arts abilities....
[MartAnimE]:lol no that was part of the weapon's abilities from the start
[MartAnimE]:not sure how that works, but that's kinda nifty :v
[MartAnimE]:episode finished for me
[AlexShadow]:finished
[noirlax]:aww
[noirlax]:sorry I'm behind
[MartAnimE]:no worries
[noirlax]:finished
[jmsrober]:finished
[MartAnimE]:I have seen this show many times before so I didn't pause as Sheila was leaving
[MartAnimE]:it was quite an intense and emotional episode
[jmsrober]:I've seen this and J again many times, but not J - X.
[Forlorn Hope]:yeah
[MartAnimE]:any thoughts?
[jmsrober]:I think I've seen J - X twice.
[AlexShadow]:finished too
[noirlax]:that was sad for the Master too and I felt he's a victim too and Lime learned something. Yeah that was more intense.
[MartAnimE]:you didn't like J to X as much?
[jmsrober]:He's what Tokugawa meant when he said the world was in an un-natural state.
[jmsrober]:It's not that, but I didn't even know it existed until a few years ago.
[jmsrober]:I thought J Again was the last one.
[MartAnimE]:ah fair enough
[noirlax]:They could have made this episode a 2 episode and made more feels and drama out of it
[noirlax]:There was enough for it
[MartAnimE]:it's pretty sad how he was ostracized for a feeling that, under normal circumstances, would be only natural
[noirlax]:yeah I agree
[noirlax]:He seemed only emotionally attached as well
[jmsrober]:I forget did he come back in the last series?
[MartAnimE]:I don't think we see him again
[noirlax]:He wasn't some pervert into bots.
[noirlax]:And of course Faust used him
[MartAnimE]:yeah he wasn't into marionettes, he had a special bond with that one in particular
[jmsrober]:Well I did sometimes wonder about Luke and R2D2....
[noirlax]:but that back story went fast.
[AlexShadow]:lol we all kow R2's heart belongs to 3P0
[MartAnimE]:I saw a documentary once about taboo relationships, and one of the people they focused on was a man who lived with a sex doll and treated her as his wife
[Forlorn Hope]:lol
[AlexShadow]:or should I say Ar-Too to Three-Pee-O
[noirlax]:lol Alex
[noirlax]:yeah Marta I've seen documentaries like that too
[MartAnimE]:I think, just like Japoness people, that kind of thing will be frowned upon in our society
[noirlax]:yes
[MartAnimE]:I guess the only difference is our world has real women :v
[jmsrober]:And oh what a difference.
[MartAnimE]:in Terra 2 you're expected to be gay or forever single ^^;
[noirlax]:I guess everyone is a test-tube baby there
[jmsrober]:Are you trying o say Hanagata is too much of a man to stay forever single?
[MartAnimE]:I wonder XD
[noirlax]:too much or too little XD
[MartAnimE]:even if there were women Hanagata would probably still only have eyes for Otaru :v
[noirlax]:yes I agree
[noirlax]:but that's by design
[MartAnimE]:such devotion XD
[noirlax]:It's called an 'artistic choice' XD
[noirlax]:by the creators
[jmsrober]:So maybe we could do a shorter watch next week to finish up?
[MartAnimE]:yeah, sounds good to me
[AlexShadow]:that would be okay for me
[MartAnimE]:maybe we can do two more next week
[noirlax]:like a one ep or two?
[MartAnimE]:and then 3 on the final rewatch
[Forlorn Hope]:two next week and 3 for the final
[jmsrober]:I was thinking 2 so we don't have 4 left.
[noirlax]:should be ok
[MartAnimE]:yup sounds like we're all on the same page ^^
[jmsrober]:We seem to have a hard time with 4 and it would suck to have the last episode on its own.
[noirlax]:I don't have anything on my calendar yet
[MartAnimE]:allright, great!
[MartAnimE]:any final thoughts?
[AlexShadow]:
https://youtu.be/m2KLX5navCI lol
[AlexShadow]:I was a tad more distracted so didn't soak it all in but I do like the direction this show has taken
[noirlax]:I'll only clone myself if James clones himself.
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[noirlax]:But more seriously these are good feel episodes
[noirlax]:I wish they lasted longer
[MartAnimE]:yeah they seem to go by rather fast
[MartAnimE]:but I think it's just that the show is fast paced
[noirlax]:yeah they are fast paced
[MartAnimE]:on the bright side, there's a 6 episode OVA and another 26 episodes sequel
[AlexShadow]:yeah for a show this age it is rather speedy
[MartAnimE]:plenty more time to spend with these characters
[AlexShadow]:compared to Gundam Wing it felt like those episodes just went on forever
[AlexShadow]:I found that series a bit of a chore to get through
[MartAnimE]:I need go give Roger his meds and take him outside
[MartAnimE]:brb :v
[noirlax]:I feel old fashioned in a way, I like my pacing slower. But I like the fast pace of the action
[noirlax]:ok
[AlexShadow]:I can do slow paced I love .hack after all but sometimes there's two slowed pace for me
[jmsrober]:Might be more interesting to make a thousand Kari clones and then have them storm Trump tower.
[noirlax]:There's a simple charm about SMJ but it doesn't feel stupid.
[noirlax]:Might not have me pondering for hours but it's heartfelt and engaging when I watch it. Leaves an impression.
[noirlax]:James if you create a thousand Kari clones, I'll be an international fugitive.
[jmsrober]:I think she has more Bigly fish to fry right now.
[noirlax]:I'm still afraid of those frying pans
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[Forlorn Hope]:Sorry going to bed now. Took some nyquil and it's making me sleepy
[jmsrober]:night
[noirlax]:I'm leaving SMJ at 8 for MAL for now.
[noirlax]:Bai bai Brooke
[noirlax]:***
[jmsrober]:I'm guessing this is one of Marta's 10s.
[noirlax]:No I think it's about 8 for her too.
[noirlax]:Very good show, I certainly would watch it again.
[jmsrober]:That's good because this and Aria will have a dedicated TV channel in the Partatership.
[noirlax]:lol that's fine with me
[noirlax]:I think we should all rush to get places in her cabinet
[jmsrober]:Pretty sure you either need Panda or Dog DNA for a cabinet position.
[noirlax]:well I hope we have some control over those Partater channels at least
[noirlax]:I mean if there are anime channels as well as dog channels I'm all in!
[noirlax]:I mean for animes we like
[noirlax]:I'm not going to be a loyal subject if the only anime channel out there is Yakumo reruns
[AlexShadow]:still better than Dragonar Academy
[jmsrober]:I knew Dragonar would get dragged into this....
[noirlax]:lol I hope that's not what the authorities will tell me
[noirlax]:I guess Dragonar Academy is the prison channel
[jmsrober]:How did that show do commercially?
[AlexShadow]:if I could remember the site that tracks DVD/Bluray sales I might be able to tell you
[noirlax]:Is it the same one posted on the forum?
[AlexShadow]:yeah that one
[MartAnimE]:back
[MartAnimE]:I rated SMJ a 9 :3
[noirlax]:
http://www.someanithing.com/series-data-quick-view[noirlax]:wb
[noirlax]:cool
[noirlax]:1182 sales
[noirlax]:47.9mil yen
[MartAnimE]:we're talking about dragonar now? -_-
[noirlax]:lol
[MartAnimE]:I step away for 1 minute XD
[AlexShadow]:
https://youtu.be/-pCRSrq0dhA quell the rage
[MartAnimE]:Kumiko is adorkable :3
[jmsrober]:is that number good or bad for anime?
[AlexShadow]:hard to say without a budget to compare it to which unlike Hollywood films isn't usually public information
[MartAnimE]:episode 6 of Euphonium2 is up Alex!
[AlexShadow]:yes I saw it yesterday
[noirlax]:well James, that's decent sales
[MartAnimE]:I'll watch it tonight, just noticed it
[MartAnimE]:oh in other Bee Train news, I've been rewatching Avenger with Adam ^^
[noirlax]:outsold many Bee Train animes ^^; Oh how is he enjoying Avenger?
[MartAnimE]:he likes it too
[AlexShadow]:considered doing the Avenger OST for my next OST review whenver that comes, might be in February again who knows
[noirlax]:sounds good Alex
[noirlax]::up:
[MartAnimE]:though he makes fun of how quiet it is at times XD
[MartAnimE]:oh wow please do Alex! it's one of my favorite soundtracks!
[noirlax]:I'm sure it's easy to make fun of Avenger
[MartAnimE]:Avenger can be hard to like, but I love the minimalist approach
[AlexShadow]:yeah I like the OST too even though I didn't care much for the show
[MartAnimE]:it's the kind of show that if you look away for a second you might miss an important visual cue
[MartAnimE]:incidentally, I upped my ranking from a 9 to a 10 for now :3
[noirlax]:Yeah that's true
[noirlax]:I guess the other thing with Avenger it can hammer the same theme into you more than most
[AlexShadow]:oh should we migrate back to the other chat
[MartAnimE]:might just be the nostalgia, but I felt it deserved since I have a lot more 9s these days and I wanted to distinguish Avenger more :v
[MartAnimE]:sure we can
[noirlax]:Let's move back if we can
[MartAnimE]: ~The End~
